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I dont like violent movies, she says.
But I like this movie.
This is a movie about a guy whos basically avenging the death of his puppy, she says.
Jesus, Im passionate about dogs.
Its a huge thing.
Its sounds like it was similar growing up with a director father.
Anjelica Huston:Right.
Yes, Dad was away working to keep us all in food and clothes.
Its more than a mission this is what your dad does first.
Its a bit more important than his being your father.
And he said, My children.
He also, Im sure, was susceptible to the common hangover, which colored his moods.
Is that an alcoholic?
To an AA-er, he was probably an alcoholic.
For an Irishman, he was a drinker.
And a smoker.He was a smoker.
He never, Im sure, suspected that something would, as he put it, break inside him.
But guess where the highest incidence of smoking is in any hospital?
I found that out at Cedars.
You grew up together but now apparently dont speak.
Why?We never got on.
Well, actually, thats not fair to say, because we got along momentarily.
And then it would kind of fall apart again.Tonycould bully me, and I found ways of shielding myself.
I could look at him in a particularly withering way.
It would just make him crazy.
You wrote that he set up a fight between you and a neighborhood boy.
Thats a little weird.There wasnt much to do in Ireland.
But at the same time, Franco Zeffirelli was interested in casting you as Juliet.
I didnt want to be told what to do by him.
I wanted to be off in Italy having a romance on set with Franco Zeffirelli.
A Walk With Love and Deathwas not well received.
I had to look up what agnuis.Wasnt that pretty?
Thats good, isnt it?
Coming as it did when you were 18, did it stick with you?It sticks with you.
And now that youve reminded me, it will stick with me for another ten years.
I probably wouldnt have quoted it had you not included it inyour memoir.No, I completely accept that.
I think the news there is hes dead and Im not.
You think hes dead?He must be.
I was curious myself.
I looked him up.
Hes 93 years old.
Hes alive.Hes dead as far as Im concerned.
He thought he was doing me a big favor.
What he probably felt badly about was, he was very unsympathetic when we were making that movie.
He came down really hard on me when I lost my lines in a scene.
He let me have it so bad in front of the crew.
What do you mean?She stayed up all night smoking cigarettes in subzero temperatures.
What do you mean by subzero temperatures?Her rooms were freezing.
Like air-conditioned, way up.
She stayed up all night, followed QVC for beanbag dolls and stuff.
She had this collection of sports memorabilia.
She had a sort of museum in her basement full of signed baseballs and Lakers shirts.
I just couldnt relate.
And also, frankly, she took a lot of coke.
But when I worked onLaverne & Shirley,I was so impressed by her.
She was a great comedian, and she could do anything.
She was so inventive.
I dont want to die from drugs, God!
What a grim way to die.
Unless youre debilitated and need to get out of here.
But to go accidentally on drugs, Id hate that.
I dont like edibles.
Too slow and you dont know where its going.
You could end up having to go to bed for three days.
I dont do anything wildly dangerous anymore.
I wasnt ever attracted to the acid.
I like to have a good time, but I dont want to lose my mind.
I remember reading thatJack Nicholsonsupposedly had what he called upstairs and downstairs cocaine.
What is the difference between good cocaine and bad cocaine?Bad cocaine makes you feel shitty.
Probably makes you run for the loo because its laced with laxatives.
Pure cocaine gives you a very light, airy, clear, and extremely pleasant feeling.
But really, theres no such thing as good cocaine.
I dont believe that people should take it recreationally.
It was more of a high point, when I decided it was ridiculous and bad for me.
Jack supposedly liked his cocaine.
Was he a functional user?Very much so.
Never took overt amounts.
He was never a guzzler.
I think Jack sort of used it, probably like Freud did, in a rather smart way.
Jack always had a bit of a problem with physical lethargy.
You were actually arrested for cocaine possession at Jacks house in 1977.
What did your father say?Not a thing.
He was a prince.
It was like, You need my help, honey?
Was the arrest embarrassing to you?Oh, awful.
So embarrassing, humiliating.
I was really ashamed.
You were arrested because you happened to be in Jacks house when Roman Polanski raped 13-year-old Samantha Geimer.
And thats how these guys enjoy their time.
You would go to Regine or Castel in Paris, and the older guys would all hit on you.
Any club you cared to mention in Europe.
It was de rigueur for most of those guys like Roman who had grown up with the European sensibility.
I was at the hairdressers yesterday, and I heard tales of such horror from women.
There was one other client and two girls who were working in this rather small hairdressing shop.
She doesnt know whether she was raped.
So you dont think anything has changed?No, I dont.
I didnt think Brett Kavanaugh was all that believable.
And yet this whole thing continues to be whitewashed and whitewashed and whitewashed.
Girls dont do that.
Did you have what would have qualified as #MeToo experiences?Yeah, yeah.
What happened?Youd have to ask me that on a daily basis, practically.
Thats how often it happens, that youre objectified, or misread, or put down.
Thats how inured they are.
You were certainly objectified.
She said, I wouldnt say beautiful.
I watched the part fly out the door.
It was the right girl inThe Last Tycoon,the part Ingrid Boulting got.
I got the wrong girl part.
But that was mild, compared to some shit that goes down.
Well, the industry seems to be treating him as though hes guilty.
Would you work with him again?Yeah, in a second.
Did you know the two women?Ive met them both.
At least insofar as I was concerned, nobody did or said anything inappropriate.
I do think in this work we have to feel freedom.
He certainly never said or did anything inappropriate with me.
This was not an unusual situation.
You know that movieAn Educationwith Carey Mulligan?
That happened to me.
Its about a schoolgirl in England who falls in love with an older dude, Peter Sarsgaard.
My first serious boyfriend I met when he was 42 and I was 18.
The photographer Bob Richardson.
It wasnt illegal though.He was way older than me.
I mean, old enough to know better.
But these things happen, thats what Im saying.
These things werent judged on the same basis that theyre judged on now.
So you cant compare them.
He was abusive, correct?Yeah.
We wouldnt have known what to call it then.
And then at a certain point, I just had to get away.
My mother had just died, so I think I was looking for someone to take care of me.
And not take care of me at the same time.
It was very dramatic.
He also was extremely controlling, so he hated whenI worked with other photographers.
I understand you only got paid scale forPrizzis Honor.Did you ask for more money?Yeah, I did.
And I said, So what am I getting for the movie?
And she said something like $14,000, and I went, Really, no more?
Can you call them on the phone and ask for more money.
She called this producer up and he said, Go to hell.
Be my guest ask for more money.
We dont even want her in this movie.
So for you this was a challenge.I thought,Watch me.Thats where thetitle of my bookcame from.
You, your father, and Jack were all nominated for Oscars forPrizzis Honor,but only you won.
Do you relish the fact that you alone were recognized?I dont relish the fact.
No, it wouldve been the more, the merrier.
I was disappointedDad didnt get itbecause he made it out to the awards.
Because I felt lonely.
Jack and I were already kind of disengaged.
She wont talk to me.
I was talking to Clint Eastwood, and she literally came between us with her back to me.
So all of the sudden I was confronted with the back of Oprahs head.
But I admire Oprah.
God knows, shes made some big steps.
An old-lady cheerleader movie.
I dont like that kind of thing.
I dont want to be relegated to some has-been making a comeback.
I dont want to work without a trailer.
You didDaddy Day Carewith Eddie Murphy.
And Eddies fortress actually had barbed wire on top.
It was as though there was going to be an invasion.
Hes such an appealing presence onscreen, but hes got this reputation of being difficult.
Suddenly, he had this humility and sweetness.
He talked about boxing that day, and he was very affable with both of us.
Maybe he didnt recognize that factor.
So I requested to at least know when he was traveling to set.
His reply, through the grapevine, was Ladies first.
Youre generally complimentary of actors youve worked with.
That was worse than anything.
Am I missing something?
You seem like such a nice person.You never know.
I was really hurt.
I said, Youre full of shit.
You didnt miss me.
He looked all confused for a moment.
Hes been a little nicer to me since.
He showed up at my husbands funeral.
He couldnt have been nicer that day.
A lot of people didnt.
I just came upon the idea that the worse the children behaved, the more delighted Morticia was.
I find Jerry incredibly beatific, she has that great accent and her children come before anything.
Its kind of jarring that she went from Mick Jagger to Rupert Murdoch.The frying pan into the fire.
Could you be with an 88-year-old man?If he was, you know … who knows?
It would depend on the man.
The whole Maricela-Dad thing was kind of weird.
I watched him come in, and he was a broken man.
His cough was horrible.
He looked transparent, and I said, Are you okay, Dad?
He said, Its Cici.
Shes accused me of having an affair with Maricela.
And I said, Well, is it true?
And then he went on to spend another 12 years or so with this woman.
He lefthis kids only a token amount, but the vast majority of his estate went to Maricela.Yes.
I call them Indians because thats how they referred to themselves.
I dont know if there was any serious money in property or anything like that.
Dad had bought her a small house in Hollywood.
But I dont know how much money he had at the end of his life.
And you know what?
I mean, its lovely to inherit, but you cant expect it.
He was just not happy with everyone and how things had unfurled.
She hasnt stayed in touch.
At one point, she resurfaced in Hollywood.
I dont know that anyones in really sound mind when theyre dying.
And so maybe I disappointed him there.
I think people would assume with generations of Hollywood fame thatThat Hollywood fortune will follow close behind.
But your father does not sound like he was a sound businessperson.
It could give people what they wanted, and he was perfectly happy to spread it around, though.
He wasnt a hoarder, although hed hoarded art a little.
It sounds like, as a youngster, you understood that finances were tight at certain points.Oh yeah.
Are you able to relax if there are unpaid bills?No!
I have big anxiety about it.
When my husband died, I was left with no money, less than no money.
But I have to work, I have to stay with it.
Ive never really been able to sit back.
Why were you broke after your husband died?He didnt have medical insurance.
It was like a sword of Damocles that came out of the blue.
He was treated for ahorrible disease Id never heard of.I gather he spent ages in the hospital.He did.
So if he didnt have insurance, who pays for all that?
[Huston raises her hand.
It was a difficult moment, yeah.
Your father was serially unfaithful toyour mother,and she eventually strayed too.
You said her attitude was Well, if youre gonna do this, so am I.
He called and asked me if he could take me out and that was pretty much it.
He drove a Rolls-Royce back then.A big maroon Rolls-Royce.
You wont see that car today.
It was eye-watering, that car.
Ryan was a great beauty.
I was just in the mood, you know.
You wrote in your memoir that you kissed Ryan ONeal on his dining-room table for six hours.
I was trying to picture it, and I concluded that this couldnt factually be true.Factually true.
What about your back?I was young.
My back was like liquid amber.
Why didnt you move?
Did the man not have a sofa?No, I think we were just too enrapt.
But it couldve been four hours, quite honestly.
you could shave a couple hours off that.
Im prone to exaggeration.
Ryan sounded like he was a psychopath with you.Yes, I think he was.
They become what is inside.
Do you think people also get the careers they deserve?
He was on top of the world and then his career disappeared.Yes, I do.
And I think you also get the face you deserve.
Have you seen it lately?
In your memoir, you mention that Ryan ONeal was sleeping with one of his daughter Tatums friends.
Your father became involved with a woman you considered a friend, Zoe Sallis.
I dont think my mother was there that summer.
She was maybe in her mid-20s, closer to my age than to my fathers.
I didnt know anything further about Zoe until I was summoned to Rome the next year by my father.
He said, Great news.
The great news wasI had a little brother.I didnt think it was great news.
She happened to be in Rome.
And he kind of made me mistrustful of him and every woman around him.
Maybe not Gladys, his longtime assistantco-writersecretary.
But I would say probably everyone else.
He said, Someone is having a baby.
Ive never liked these announcements, or discovering unwelcome truths.
And then he kind of laid it on me.
And I was really nice about it.
So you broke up with him that night, but then you showed up at his office.
I guess you beat him up pretty good.Yeah.
But I didnt kick him.
Its the only thing I didnt do because I figured he might come back at me.
He got my meaning.
But the truth is, I could never imagine [being a mother].
I can imagine lots of things, but I could never imagine carrying a baby.
The breakup sounded very sad.
It demonstrated a tremendous lack of loyalty as far as I was concerned.
Like Bob Rafelson?Oh, all those guys.
I cant say all those guys, but yeah, those guys.
I hung around these people for 15 years, and so much of it ended that day.
Not a bit of it.
But you did hear from his business manager about the financial terms of the breakup?Oh, yeah.
His business manager and his lawyer took me to lunch in the garden at Ma Maison.
And the lawyer said, Picture this.
Youre a parking-lot attendant.
Thats how he introduced what he had to say.
It was never my intention to make money off Jack.
All I wanted was to be able to be self-sufficient.
You married Robert Graham in 1992, correct?Yeah.
I kind of thought I should.
Every woman should be married once.
Bob died in 2008.
Do you think about him a lot?I miss Bob a lot.
I think about him very often, yes.
He was off on his own plane in a way.
I could look at something that Bob made and go, How the fuck did he do that?
I think that many writers have made comparisons between Jack and your father, that theyre similar.
They liked each other.
Yes, charismatic and fun.
They didnt look alike.
They were just my kind of guys.
I guess you didnt like guys who wereDependable.
I never found those ones to be sexy.
I like the difficult ones.
It sounds like there was a lot of pain with Jack.
I had a good time, too.
My life has always been a bit extreme in terms of the people that Ive hung out with.
Maybe youre flirting with someone whos attractive, who finds you fun and amusing and tells you youre beautiful.
Maybe its better than being with Grumpy.
But when Jack was with her, she was very young, like 24 or something.
I think there are some younger women with older guys who love them and stay with them forever.
I think it depends on the case.
He came to your 60th-birthday party.
Whens the last time you talked to him?A year or so ago.
I dont even know if he buys art anymore.
I told him, you dont have to doThe Bucket Liststuff.
Why dont you play a great villain?
I dont want to see Jack doingMeet the Fockers.
I already get depressed if I see him in perfectly good Nancy Meyers movies.
I like to see Jack in full rebellious feather, and thats how I love him best on film.
I loved him inTerms of Endearment,where he plays this incredibly romantic no-goodnik.
Do you think needing money is what keeps a lot of older actors working on substandard stuff?Yeah.
- I guess he has maybe a couple of ex-wives, right?
Not many, but what does this fellow spend his money on?
Hes got the Tribeca Film Festival hes not spending the film money on that.
Al Pacinos done some unfortunate straight-to-video stuff too.Pacino does some schlock.
But in some way hes forgiven, because he always goes out on a limb and doesSalomeall by himself.
Pacino is more experimental, I think.
I dont know who if anyone Jacks with now.
*Due to a transcription error, the line Although, how big can his nut be?
